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    Hello every one I'm new here I was referred by Becky Morgan a crochet friend who is a member here..

    Well I wanted to say that I had to rush my foxie just became 5 years of age oct 12 ,,, I rushed her to the hospital on saturday morning and was admitted immediately and she has IMT And well I was able to bring her home yesterday her blood lever up to yesterday morning was 17 due to the loss of blood...

    She is on vitamin K to help with the clotting and she is on predisone and something else cant remember now all oral meds...

    I am so scared for her as i love her soooo much and was wanting more advise on how i can continue to help her to see if she can over come this..

    Doctor told me most patients she has treated with this dont make it but we are hoping Foxie does...

    So please if any one here ever had your furbaby suffer from this please tell me...

    I was told to feed her LIver which i am doing for her and I thank God she is eating it .....

    What else can i give her that can help her???

    hugs
    Lillibet from upstate NY

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    Originally posted by MOOMOOO View Post
    Hello every one I'm new here I was referred by Becky Morgan a crochet friend who is a member here..

    Well I wanted to say that I had to rush my foxie just became 5 years of age oct 12 ,,, I rushed her to the hospital on saturday morning and was admitted immediately and she has IMT And well I was able to bring her home yesterday her blood lever up to yesterday morning was 17 due to the loss of blood...

    She is on vitamin K to help with the clotting and she is on predisone and something else cant remember now all oral meds...

    I am so scared for her as i love her soooo much and was wanting more advise on how i can continue to help her to see if she can over come this..

    Doctor told me most patients she has treated with this dont make it but we are hoping Foxie does...

    So please if any one here ever had your furbaby suffer from this please tell me...

    I was told to feed her LIver which i am doing for her and I thank God she is eating it .....

    What else can i give her that can help her???

    hugs
    Lillibet from upstate NY
    My last dog had that when she was 9 and she lived to be 15, so relax. ( I know that's easy for me to say.) My dog was initially put on a drug called Imuran, but that gave her pancreatitis.

    Amy was on predisone for about a year, if not a little over. She started on a pretty high dose and she was weaned off very slowly. I would recommend that approach with your dog. I knew of someone else who's dog had that too and they weaned her dog off quickly and she had 5 replapses.

    Keep her quiet because she's at risk for bleeding. My dog was in a hospital until her platelets reached 66,000. Once she got them back though, her numbers stayed good. Like I said, she was on prednisone for about a year. She started on 40 mg per day, and was weaned to 2.5 every 4 days. After that we took her off.

    Some dogs do stay on predisone their entire life. I was willing to go that route. It was suggested by my regular vet at one time, though the hospital that treated her had felt she would eventually come off of the medicine.

    Keep doing regular blood tests on your dog, and keep her on the predisone.

    Good luck and keep us posted.
    Jill Gallo /Manager
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    • #3
      My dog, Tilly, had a similar, but opposite issue - immune-mediated hemolytic anemia - she was losing red blood cells to her immune system, not the white. It took over two years to get her better, and she was on prednisone and an immune-suppressant drug that whole time. And yes, she was in dire shape when it all started, and I very nearly lost her. But what helped me to handle the stress was to understand one thing - it wasn't going to be fixed immediately. It wasn't going to be fixed in a matter of weeks. A friend of mine gave me the phone number of a friend of hers who had lost a dog to what you're handling right now. And from talking to her about her experiences with her dog, I finally understood that it could take a very long time, and I could still lose Tilly even after the initial flurry of activity was over. It is monitoring and educating yourself to be your dog's best advocate that's ahead of you. That's what made a huge difference for me - if your vet isn't someone you can talk to about the wild ideas you find on the internet, and isn't someone you feel you trust to talk you through what's happening, then get second opinions until you find a vet you do. I'm not saying you should shop around until you find an easier diagnosis - I'm saying consult with more veterinarians, especially internal medicine specialists if your area has one, to seek more treatment options if your current vet isn't someone you trust to have those options for you. And get reading until you feel you have an idea of the treatment options and tests ahead of you. The internet is a wonderful source of information.

      And I have to say - I am so glad you came here to talk about your experiences. We've all been through some serious events and illnesses with our dogs and cats, and there's a lot of sympathetic and caring people here who are happy to share their experiences if it will help you. I know I leaned heavily on everyone here when Tilly was sick. And yes, she did get better - she was first ill with anemia at age 12, got better by age 14 or 15, and then I finally lost her to kidney disease at age 16 and a half. 16 and a half, I kid you not. So immune disorders like this are scary and serious, but you can fight them. There is hope, and your dog can get better. Just be willing to invest your time and yes, money, towards medication. I never went for crazy-level tests for Tilly - the most expensive test we did was a couple of ultrasounds, and yes, a biopsy of her liver once, but I drew the line at tests I thought were too much for her, like the bone marrow biopsy one doctor wanted. But she was 12 - I wasn't expecting her to live to 16 and a half, so I thought her quality of life was more important than the possible "yep, she has what we think she has" confirmation it could afford. And people here helped me with those decisions, supporting me through them. So yeah, I think you came to the right place.

      -Mary
      Mary
      ----with Sadie, Elsie, Saffron, Peaches & James ----

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      • #4
        Hi and welcome to the forum -- I don't have any advice or help for you but just wanted to wish you and your Foxie the best. I hope she pulls through. Please keep us posted on how she's doing.
        Diane and Cicero - Sr. Manager:

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        • #5
          I have no advice for you but I will be sending my best healing thoughts to your Foxie. I know how hard it is to see our little furkids sick. I know your vet is doing all he can for her - I'm glad you're able to get her to eat liver. Please keep us informed about her progress and send her some gentle scritches and headbumps from me and my three kitters.
          Karen A/Publicist

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          • #6
            I have a dog, Jada, that had severely low platelets of unknown cause when she was 1 1/2 years old. She had a platelet level of 13,000 when the lowest level that the vet considered not a threat to severe bleeding was 50,000. Because Dobies have an inherited problem, called von Willenbrands disease, it could have been that, or IMT, or ingestion of rat poison, or something else. So, while awaiting the tests, she got vit. K (for the rat poison ingestion), prednisone (if it was the IMT). She recovered her platelet level quickly but stayed on prednisone. It turns out she didn't have the genetic disease, we don't have rat poison around so it was considered IMT -- until we found her eating lanatana leaves. Apparently there is a toxin in there and it's thought she ingested a lot of them (they were on the deck in a planter) and that caused her problems. So, we have banned lantana from this house and yard. I'm always careful when we go on a walk that she doesn't grab some from our neighbor's plantings. She's still around and is about to turn 8 next spring with no relapse.

            And the good thing is that immunological problems can be treated with prednisone and it's an inexpensive treatment. Of course our treatment was even cheaper in the long run.

            Give that foxie a hug and gentle scritches for us. And, don't let her jump off the couch or anyplace like that until her platelet numbers are back to normal.

            Linda

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            • #7
              Goodmorning Ladies:

              Wow thank you all that have responded to my post.... I feel a bit more confortable talking to each of you and knowing that its true that its a long healing process.. My vet took Foxie in Immediately on Sat Morning and admitted her and began assesing her and blood work and told me her kidneys are great and her pancreas too and her liver as well.... and is not diabetic.... so all that was ruled out and then she also consulted with another vet and that is when they decided to treat her for this illness..

              She goes in tomorrow for blood work to check her blood levels... Which i'm praying so hard that they are higher even if just a wee higher i will be happy.

              My vet is very loving and kind and imagine she takes in all unwanted cats and dogs and treats them and make them healthy then she put them up for adoption after having them there for evaluation for several weeks..

              I adopted Foxie from there when foxie was 7months .. She said that the owners were in their 80's Foxie was givne to them as a gift and the lady never had any pets so she kept telling the vet that Foxie was a bad bad dog... Can you imagine she was a puppy... So the vet had fear of what could happy to foxie so she told the lady if she didnt want Foxie bring her in and she would find her a good home .... A month later i adopted her The vet keep her that long with out showing her to anyone waiting to find the right person for Foxie... Hubby and I say that Foxie adopted us... She has us wwrapped around her paws..

              When i go to take her in tomorrow I will ask many more questions and I will also ask about the predisone too and the vitamin K and the other med she is on,

              Today she seems about the same as yesterday but wags her tail at us and gives kisses if we ask her for them.. She will bark a little and that is it...
              She is eating slowly which she wasnt doing at the hospital.... Drinking tons of fresh water too....

              I cant thank you all enough for your support me just being here since yesterday... YOU all are so kind....
              Thank you for your prayers for Foxie .
              hugs and yes i will give Foxie all your hugs and scratches and head buts.... But Gently...and not all at once since i dont want to over exhaust her with all the love you ladies sending her....
              Hugs
              Lillibet

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              • #8
                Let us know what the vet says. You and Foxie will be in my prayers.
                Jill Gallo /Manager
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                • #9
                  It sounds like Foxie is holding her own and that you have a very caring vet -- keep us posted on how she's doling.
                  Diane and Cicero - Sr. Manager:

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                  • #10
                    Hello and welcome to you and Foxie. I am just reading your thread. I don't have any advice or knowledge about your beloved dog's disease, but wanted to just offer welcome and support and prayers for your girl. Your vet sounds very special. Please let us know how Foxie is doing when you can.

                    Gail
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                    • #11
                      How is Foxie doing today? How did the blood tests go?

                      -Mary
                      Mary
                      ----with Sadie, Elsie, Saffron, Peaches & James ----

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                      • #12
                        Hello to all:

                        Well my friends Foxie 's blood level was up to 22 on friday when i took her in for blood work.. She has also lost 2 more pounds since she got I'll.

                        Foxie blood work level today is 23 so really only went up by 1 ...

                        She is still very weak but a bit more spunky .... she tries very hard .... Weather been lovely so she had been enjoying fresh air every day a bit...
                        Her stool is solid and brown normal colors so I'm happy about that...

                        Doctor told me on friday that Foxie is a Miracle and a Fighter cause all the pets she has treated for this have not made it...

                        They have reduced her meds today to once a day and i go again on friday to get more blood work.....I have a feeling this blood wrok thing will be twice a week for a long time....

                        PLease continue to keep her in your prayers ..
                        I will keep updates as time allows and as i hear new things...
                        Even her bark is faint....
                        Still eating liver......

                        God bless you all and Have a Blessed Thanksgiving Day..
                        I know I am blessed to have Foxie with us and I have lots to be thank ful for...
                        hugs
                        Lillibet

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MOOMOOO View Post
                          Hello to all:

                          Well my friends Foxie 's blood level was up to 22 on friday when i took her in for blood work.. She has also lost 2 more pounds since she got I'll.

                          Foxie blood work level today is 23 so really only went up by 1 ...

                          She is still very weak but a bit more spunky .... she tries very hard .... Weather been lovely so she had been enjoying fresh air every day a bit...
                          Her stool is solid and brown normal colors so I'm happy about that...

                          Doctor told me on friday that Foxie is a Miracle and a Fighter cause all the pets she has treated for this have not made it...

                          They have reduced her meds today to once a day and i go again on friday to get more blood work.....I have a feeling this blood wrok thing will be twice a week for a long time....

                          PLease continue to keep her in your prayers ..
                          I will keep updates as time allows and as i hear new things...
                          Even her bark is faint....
                          Still eating liver......

                          God bless you all and Have a Blessed Thanksgiving Day..
                          I know I am blessed to have Foxie with us and I have lots to be thank ful for...
                          hugs
                          Lillibet
                          Thanks for the update -- I'm glad to see that Foxie is holding her own. Hope she continues to improve. Keep us posted.
                          Diane and Cicero - Sr. Manager:

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                          • #14
                            Holding her own is definately a good sign. I'm surprised though, that they're lowering her meds when the count is still that low. My dogs were at 66,000 when they let her come home, and they didn't lower her meds until her platelets got in the normal range.

                            Good luck though, and keep us posted. And, BTW, it took my dog a few days to get beyond the 0 point, so recovery can be very slow.
                            Jill Gallo /Manager
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                            • #15
                              Do you know what test that is that they're repeating? Those numbers - 22, 23, etc sound a lot like Tilly's red blood cell count numbers when she was anemic, not what I'd expect for a white blood cell count number. Find out what they call it - if it's a PCV or a HCT, those will be red blood cell counts. And a 23 is definitely bad for a red blood cell count, but not yet in dangerous territory - when Tilly was sick, we used under 20 as the criteria for a blood transfusion. If she ever dipped below that, we'd do a blood transfusion (but it wasn't considered CRITICAL until she was as a low as 15). But even an incremental increase like this of 23 vs 22 is a good sign at this point. But don't be surprised if it dips at times. It takes time for the body to grow new cells and to fully halt the destruction process.
                              Mary
                              ----with Sadie, Elsie, Saffron, Peaches & James ----

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